Hail Doofus:
Two-Handed Man interviews Rick Altergott
Rick Altergott
is a cartoonist living in Seattle, and is the creator of a strip set
in Flowertown, U.S.A. featuring a sad sack named Doofus and his equally
socially-inept best friend Henry Hotchkiss. For some reason I find the
Doofus strips to be a really good time, so I interviewed Mr. Altergott
in early February of 2002. Before you read the interview, click on the
lines directly below to check out a few Doofus strips for yourself.
These strips are ©
Rick Altergott.
Click here to see Henry Hotchkiss get a job.
Click here to see Doofus in college.
Click here to see Henry Hotchkiss get a nickname.
Click here to see Doofus' dog farm.
THM: Now, the hat that Doofus
wears is called a `straw boater,' is that right? What's the story on
that kind of hat, and why did you pick that instead of a stetson or
something? Are some kinds of hats more hilarious than others?
RA: Well, Doofus can never appear without his hat, the
straw boater. When I came up with the character, the comic publisher
Kitchen Sink was reprinting `Lil' Abner' by Al Capp. On Sundays, Abner
always dressed up to go a-callin' in his own straw boater. I lifted
it because I thought it was funny, and I liked how Capp drew it, I guess.
Incidentally, Doofus' hairstyle was lifted from another classic strip,
`Prince Valiant' by Hal Foster, which was being reprinted by Fantagraphics
at the same time.
THM: What was Doofus like as a child? Or more specifically,
and without giving too much away, what terrible sequence of events turned
him into the creepy weirdo he is today? His habit of swiping girls'
dirty panties so he and his buddies can spend the evening sniffing them—was
this one of the things that caused women to reject him or did he develop
this habit only AFTER his inadequacy with the opposite sex was made
apparent, and he was forced to find alternative sources of satisfaction?
RA: What little I have mentioned about Doofus' childhood
has been purposely vague. Come to think of it, I guess I have never
given any details. I have a story planned with Doofus as a little kid
fishing with his dad. The dad is convinced that his son is a total loser,
so he decides to put him out of his misery by pushing him off the end
of the pier. But just as he's about to do it, Lil' Henry Hotchkiss and
his dad arrive on the scene, foiling the attempt. Doofus' dad dies soon
afterwards of a heart attack or something, and Doofus grows up living
with his mother, and a lot of insurance money, presumably, which is
the current situation.
THM: Doofus' best friend Henry Hotchkiss has had sex,
entirely due to dumb luck-will Doofus himself ever be `de-flowered in
Flowertown?'
RA: I'm not really sure. It could happen, I guess, but
he seems to play better as a frustrated sexual character with balls
so blue he should work in the frozen food business, on account of his
own two `Frosty Achers.'
THM: Did you catch a lot of heat from Foreigner fans re:
Doofus 2? You show Doofus soothing his broken heart by listening to
`I Wanna Know What Love Is' by Foreigner (`Jukebox Hero,' `Hot-Blooded,'
`Cold As Ice,' etc.) but you mistakenly credit the song to Survivor
(`Eye Of The Tiger')! How did such a glaring error make it past your
editors?
RA: I have never known about this error, but it doesn't
really surprise me that I got it wrong, since I only knew that song
from the radio, and so I probably got the credit wrong for it. My only
experience with the band Foreigner was in 1981 sitting in the middle
of a crowd at JFK Stadium under a blanket in the rain waiting for their
terrible shit music to end so the Rolling Stones could come on. Oh,
wow! Another mistake-that opening act was Journey! Same difference anyway.
THM: That's interesting, I've talked to a lot of people
who get Journey, Foreigner, and Survivor mixed up…What's Doofus' favourite
movie? Is it Caddyshack?
RA: I really don't know, but it would probably be something
hi-tone like `Ashes & Diamonds' by Polish filmmaker Andrej Wajda.
THM: Doofus is clearly a creepy loser, but he's still
a little charming, somehow. During the panty-party sequence (in Doofus
2), I wasn't sure if I was supposed to look down at him and laugh AT
him, or sink down to his level and laugh WITH him. Even when his behavior
is extremely sleazy/stupid, you keep us on his side, like he's more
worthy of our pity than our scorn, but if YOU lived in Flowertown, would
YOU hang out with him?
RA: Doofus is supposed to be well-meaning, but he often
acts inappropriately out of ignorance and lack of social grace. He can
also get caught up in the momentum of something he's involved in and
inadvertently hurt his pal Henry Hotchkiss, such as the time he built
a robot that temporarily replaced his pal. As for that panty-party,
he clearly enjoys the spotlight and being host to his friends, another
favourable trait. I guess you are supposed to like the guy, but hanging
out with him might be pushing it a bit.
THM: How did you `learn' comedy? What attracted you to
this type of material? Were you always a funny guy, or did you have
to work at getting the gags down just right?
RA: I guess I really don't know how I became interested
in the comic form. I've been lucky to always have been around funny
people, my friends, mostly. I can't stand stuff like `Stand-Up Comedy';
it always seems so forced and artificial to me. There are exceptions
though, like seeing Redd Foxx in Vegas once. Studying why something
is funny and analyzing it can come awfully close to killing it, if you
ask me. As far as literature goes, I was always a big fan of MAD magazine,
and the National Lampoon of the `70's. Sorry to cop out on that answer!
THM: I think a big part of what makes it work is the uneasy
union between form and content-a nostalgia-evoking drawing style reminiscent
of the `good old days,' servicing gags that are vulgar and filthy. How
did you develop your style? How long did it take you to get to a point
where it `worked'? What artists influenced you the most starting out?
RA: I have to thank you for
the nice compliment, since I have a very hard time gauging the success
or failure of my comics. One main arbiter I rely on is my longtime pal
Dan Clowes (Note: cartoonist Dan Clowes is the creator of many fine
books like Orgy Bound, Lout Rampage, and Like a Velvet Glove Cast In
Iron. He was just nominated for an Oscar for the screenplay to the movie
Ghost World-THM), whose instincts seem pretty right on, and who
provides feedback, particularly with the Doofus strips I've done. Doing
gags can be really hard for me, particularly coming up with funny ones.
I had a stint in a weekly alternative paper here in Seattle about a
year ago, and it forced me to be economical with the delivery of the
jokes because of space constraints.
Although I don't think
I always succeeded, I think I gained some experience in staging and
timing, which are traditionally terms that apply to theatre, but are
equally important in making good comics. During this time I was consciously
trying to improve my layout ability and pushing the poses for humorous
effect. I still am. To me, layout is the hardest part of the process,
because you have to select the best pose or angle etc from hundreds
of possibilities.
As far as the art goes,
I like the MAD cartoonists the best. I am a second-rate Wally Wood,
as I have been referred to. Mea culpa. But I've also been compared to
Jack Davis, which I consider a compliment. It sometimes cracks me up
that my style is now referred to as `Old School.' That happened in the
15 or so years that I've been serious about comics. I'll take that as
a compliment too, considering the abysmal level of ineptitude that speaks
for 99% of today's comics, particularly in mainstream `Super-hero' comic
books, but also in newspaper comics which are equally ugly and poorly
done.
Even the elite of the Comics
Journal in their `100 Best Of All Time' retardo list excluded Alex Raymond
from their tally. He created 4 newspaper features in his lifetime, including
`Rip Kirby' and `Flash Gordon.' No one is going to claim `Flash Gordon'
as a writing masterpiece, but I think `Rip Kirby' sure was up there.
Hal Foster's `Prince Valiant' just made their list at #100.
THM: I did notice the way you exaggerate the postures
of the figures-poses that would look too hammy or over-the-top to work
on the stage work just fine in your stories, and help to make them funny
instead of just amusing. When you're planning a funny page, how conscious
are you of the elements you'll have to employ to make it work: gesture,
posture, dialogue, drawing style…? Or is it all mainly just instinctive
for you?
RA: I'm still learning the stuff as I go along. I wish
I had the natural knack of knowing what would work in each situation,
the way that Jack Kirby seemed to know just where to put the `camera'
every time. To me, Kirby's modern-day equivalent is Gilbert Hernandez
(Love & Rockets), who just seems to be so at home working in the comics
medium. He gets the maximum effect out of the juxtaposition of his words
and pictures. Others working that can do this well have been able to
elicit a real emotional response from their audience, which contributes
to the maturation of the form. I'd cite Jaime Hernandez, Dan Clowes,
Peter Bagge, Seth, and Charles Burns as the type of artist I mean by
that. For me, I am mostly trying to be funny, but usually in a believable
context, which is why I prefer the realistic art style. I just built
a strip around what I had to admit to myself was a perfect `Doofus moment,'
with Doofus being bonked on the head with a baby toy that had just been
up someone's ass. I showcased that panel and built the story around
it. I hope people laugh!
THM: I'm laughing already! What got you into comics in
the first place?
RA: Like I said, I was and still am to an extent a fan
of MAD magazine, and particularly Mort Drucker, the famous caricaturist.
That fixation easily carried me into my college days where I met and
befriended Dan Clowes, whose interest in doing comics clearly reinforced
my own.
THM: I understand you work with Ditko at some point in
the past-tell us what that was like. Did you actually get to meet him???!!!
RA: I inked 2 comics drawn by Steve Ditko in 1987, while
living in Chicago with Dan. The guy who published the books--`The Face'
and `The Return Of Skyman'-turned out to be an asshole who stiffed me
on payment of the second comic I inked. I never got to meet Ditko, and
I sure hope he didn't get stiffed like me. He did respond to a letter
I sent him asking him if liked what I had done with his awesome pencils.
His reply was vague and non-demonstrative. I doubt he had a lot of emotional
currency tied up in that work. (Note: Sturdy Steve Ditko is one of the
finest cartoonists ever. He's best known for co-creating, along with
a two-bit slimy weasel named Stan Lee, Dr. Strange, Master Of The Mystic
Arts, and The Amazing Spider-man-THM)
THM: Did you ever think about doing a syndicated strip,
as opposed to comic books?
RA: I have, but it would have to be an adventure strip
of some kind, with continuity. That way, I wouldn't have to churn out
a gag every day. Of course, there are hardly any of that type of strip
in the paper anymore, so my chances are almost non-existent.
THM: I'm asking because I was just struck by the fact
that there are all these brilliant folks doing excellent comics that
are distributed as comic books with a worldwide distribution of 5000
copies or whatever, and at the same time all the strips in all the newspapers
that are seen by millions of people are invariably TERRIBLE! I'm sure
that whatever paper you read is similar to mine in that it features
a page of comics by a bunch of lame, untalented, unfunny bastards. I'd
love to see something like a Studs Kirby strip or a Doofus strip in
my paper-why do we have to settle for such bland tripe? Seeing as how
you're `in the business,' can you shed any light onto this situation?
RA: I wish I knew a good answer to that one. Newspaper
comics today, and newspapers in general, do suck pretty hard. I tend
to think that they have been co-opted by the politically-correct liberal
media which force rules and quotas onto everything, and simply censor
anything that doesn't fit their set agenda, a practice that is institutionalized
to a much worse degree in the rest of the average newspaper. See Coloring
The Media, by William McGowan. But be that as it may, I think that the
main problem is that most of the cartoonists submitting to the syndicates
are really trying to fit the mold, and come up with something popular
that will take hold with the readers. That generally translates into
a family-oriented, rather bland strip, of the type that dominates today's
comics page. To me, the ones who are the most reprehensible are douchebags
like that guy `Wiley,' who must be an editor's wet dream: perceived
as `edgy,' but in fact towing the line of the Liberal Media Elite, a
virtual mouthpiece for any position whatsoever that the liberal media
might endorse. A good company man. Worse yet is his obnoxious way of
`educating' us poor slobs about all this. Aaron Mcgruder is another
dupe, keeping blacks down with his kneejerk opinions. He just enables
Democrats to keep taking the black vote for granted. They know they
don't have to work for what blacks need or want, because, with aid by
polarizers like Mcgruder, at the end of the day they go for the Democrats,
and since the Republicans know it too, neither party gives a shit about
them. Your own Garry Trudeau is better than most, but essentially a
lap dog to the left. And don't even get me started on Lloyd Dangle.
I used to really enjoy his Troubletown strip. It used to have balance
but now it's obvious he's just carrying water for the liberals, who,
after all, pay his salary. My wife his big disagreements with me on
a lot of this stuff, so don't go blaming her for my strident opinions!
THM: What led to your material appearing in Peter Bagge's
HATE comic? When did you meet him? Do you have any good Peter Bagge
stories?
RA: Peter just asked me if
I was interested, and I certainly was. To this day, most people who
know me are HATE fans who discovered my stuff in those issues I appeared
in. I've known Pete for a number of years, and had met him a bunch of
times before I moved to Seattle. I can't think of any stories at the
moment. I don't see much of Pete these days. The whole cartooning community
is kind of dissolving up here recently. A lot of the guys have moved
away. Pete used to throw a lot of parties. Maybe he still does, and
just doesn't invite me. (Note: Please visit www.peterbagge.com
-THM)
THM: Do you make enough $ from cartooning for it to be
your full-time job? You mentioned that you did strips for The Stranger--what
other cartooning work do you do?
RA: There aren't too many cartoonists I know who do their
comic as a full-time thing. Most of us do illustration and other art-related
work on the side. Fine art is a direction a lot of us have gone in,
lately. I paint watercolours of bridges and houses and stuff, which
I enjoy very much. I'm almost at the level of gallery quality, but not
quite. I spent 4 years working at a kids' software company as of 6 months
ago, but I was laid off. Now I am trying to get by as a freelance artist.
God help me!
THM: What comics are you reading these days? What inspires
you?
RA: I read anything by the Hernandez Brothers, Black Hole
by Charles Burns, any work by Dan Clowes or Robert Crumb. I like all
of the books that Drawn & Quarterly publishes: Seth, Chester Brown,
and a particularly strong new Optic Nerve by Adrian Tomine, who's on
a roll with his last three comics.
THM: What new comics projects do you have lined up for
the future?
RA: My wife Ariel Bourdeaux and I are working on a new
comic tentatively titled `Raisin Pie' which will be a comic that has
both of our longer continued stories debuting in it. I'm doing a long
Doofus story in which I try to address some weightier issues and hopefully
humour, titillation and suspense as well. I'd love to create a cast
of characters as `real' as Pete did with HATE. Despite the cartoony
drawing style, I know a lot of people who cared for those characters
as if they were real! And even got pissed at Pete if he did something
with them they didn't like. That's a pretty tall order, I know. I'm
not really that strong of a writer to pull it off, but I'll try it just
the same. I'm betting Ariel can do it; she's really good with dialogue.
Another project in the works is a collection of my comics
being published by Fantagraphics Books in about a year. It will feature
a lot of stuff that has never been reprinted and hasn't seen the light
of day in over a decade, as well as more obscure material. It will be
a trade paperback format book with a colour section.
THM: I'm looking forward to it! Thank-you for your time,
Mr. Altergott!
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To buy Doofus 2, visit www.fantagraphics.com
and type `doofus' into the search box. Original Altergott artwork
can be purchased through www.comicartcollective.com.
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